BVI residents concerned about government’s decision to decrease residency status time
BVI News Correspondent - Thursday, October 21st, 2010 at 4:32 PM
Two hours after the delivery of the Speech from the Throne, BVIslanders congregated at various parts of Road Town to announce their disapproval of the Governor’s announcement of the proposed decreasing of the residency status time.
His Excellency Governor Boyd McCleary mentioned during the speech from the throne that the Government will take early steps to introduce changes to decrease the number of years living in the Territory to attain residency status from 20 years to ten years.
However, one Virgin Islander who converged with others by Bobby’s Supermarket discussing the speech told BVI News Online that he is not happy about the announcement because it could have negative ramifications: “Let me say that I am in support of rewarding our law-abiding Caribbean brothers and sisters who living among us and work hard and honestly to help build this territory….But there are others who live among us who show no interest whatsoever in trying to mix and interact with us Virgin Islanders. I fear that by dropping the time bar, we would be giving these persons the rights of a Virgin Islanders on a silver platter and that could spell disaster for future BVIslander.”
Another man in the group stated that he fears that reduced time would cause an influx of “new BVIslanders” because there are a number of persons in the territory who already qualify.
“…. I don’t know what the motives for this is but it makes no sense to me and I am sure many other Virgin Islanders feel the same way. The BVI is too small for this kind of arrangement,” he explained.
Residence status is usually conferred upon persons who meet the requirements as stipulated in Section 18 of the Immigration and Passport Act (Cap 130) and related Government policies.
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Yes, there are other countries that take longer than us to give resident or belonger status…Cayman Islands and Bermuda for sure and I am sure there are many more..you would be lucky if after 20 years in Cayman or Bermuda you would be getting anything at all..some people dont need to knock us for we are not the only country imposing these years in order to get resident etc. every country has their own laws to deal with ceratin situation. Every belonger of each country has a right to voice their opinion.
IMAGINE CALLING YOURSELF CHRISTIANS GOING TO CHURCH CALLING THE PERSON NEXT TO U BROTHER OR SISTER AND YET EVEN THOUGH THEY LIVE WITH U FOR 10 YEARS U DONT THINK THEY SHOULD BELONG.NOW IMAGINE U IN HEAVEN AND U GOT TO CHOOSE THE PPL WHO GETS INTO HEAVEN ONLY YOUR BLOOD FAMILIES U WILL ALLOW IN HUH? RIGHT NOW THE BVI IS DOING FINE WITH ITS CURRENT POPULATION COUNT SO IF EVERYONE HERE WAS TO BELONG WHAT WOULD EXACTLY BE THE PROBLEM? I THINK ITS FEAR THATS WHY THEY REFUSE TO BE FAIR HENCE ALL THE RETARDED GARBAGGE AS COMMENT AS TO WHY PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE GIVEN RESIDENCY AFTER 10 YEARS. LET ANYBODY TELL ME IF THERE R ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD THAT TAKES LONGER TO GIVE PEOPLE THAT STATUS
In reply to “EXILED”. This is exactly the discriminatory attitude that brings about the rift between the Expat and Belonger community. This remark is shameful. Humans are incredibly sensitive to rejection and comments like this are not productive, rather these attitudes harbor and breed hatred. The country cannot just recruit foreign skills and knowledge as they come attached to a private individual. If the BVI wants expatriates as resources it needs to be accepting of the whole package.
I am an expat. I came alone to the BVI approximately 5 years ago. This is my home. I am born of another country but it is here that I have found a family of friends. I earn a decent salary. I pay my taxes. Every dollar I earn goes back to the BVI economy. It is here that I would wish to build a home if I could afford it. It is the BVI that I would stand and protect if I had to. I respect my birth country but I have no ties to it. Personally, I try to ignore the attitudes and behaviors exhibited by those who do not welcome me here. I believe in turning the other cheek and live a positive life. I believe the universe is loving and refuse to allow persons such as exiled to make me feel a lesser person. There are far more friendly BVIslanders than there are persons such as this and even when I do have to cross paths with someone who blatantly disrespects, tries to ignore me or treats me rudely I continue to smile and treat them with respect and kindness; it has to make them feel worse that they cannot anger me.
Despite not allowing the xenophobic behaviors to destroy my spirit there are two points I’d like to contribute to this discussion. First, many expats do walk in fear of speaking out or standing up for our rights or angering a BVIslander in any fashion or form. It’s not proper for any person to be walked over and mistreated. Neither Expats nor BVIslanders should have to remain tight-lipped about indignities against them and yet many Expats fear a Belonger running to Immigration with the intent to have them exiled from their home. I am surprised to read in this blog that some Belongers feel they are the ones without a voice. I fail to understand this argument when clearly they are the ones who have the power to vote and the power to be heard without repercussion. Second, and more to the point of residency, we all desire to live with a sense of security and a sense of belonging; it is rooted deep in the human psyche. As many have pointed out the right of residency does not carry with it the rights of citizenship but what it does provide is a sense of protection and social attachment. We are human after all, and belonging is essential to sustain us, to give us pride and provide a notion of grounding.
The majority of the expat community will not wish to settle in the BVI. Many will move on within a year or two to discover other countries and expand their careers. There will, however, always be some who fall in love with the BVI and wish to make it their home. Truly, would ten years of being a positive contributor to the BVI not be long enough to earn the privilege of residency status?
@Expat who would love to officially call the BVI home,
The issue here is choice. I would choose to make you a belonger after investigating you comments. If you were found to be truthful then I would definitely give you status and welcome you into the inner circles of the community. However, the truth is that most expats are not like you. After investigations if persons are found to be drunks, child molesters, women beaters etc I would choose to have them leave while being careful to be respectful to them.
@Anonymous:
Ray why don’t you go first and see how BVI belongers will survive without you.
Nothing against the other Caribbean people but we have to be careful our island dont turn into one like Santo Domingo..when that country was rich people migrated there to work and dried it of all it’s resources and now today they are a poor country struggling. We are too small of a population to be out numbered by other caribbean people. If this comes to pass, it would mean a drop in revenue for our country cause we would loose that money we collect for work permits. Most countries are struggling now and looking for ways to get more income and we just giving the little we have away. Some of those caribbean people dont have regards for us who are born here. They always boasting about what their country have better than ours.,,If they continue coming here with that kind of attitude then I have one thing to say “Go back if it’s better than here”. Another thing..there are a set who are always calling us dumb and stupid, especially when they get in high positions..like up by the prison. They get these positions and do everything they can to keep the locals from advancing. These are the problems I have with some of the caribbean people who live here..we have to be very careful with this decision.
@Too much: shUT UP
Yes, send all the expats home and leave the 200 true BVIlanders here to fend for themselves!
You expats make seem as though you work for nothing.If you are so unhappy go back to your big islands.Lets start a send the expats home fund.Any takers?
We can take some who desire to belong but obviously we have to be careful.(for fear of overpopulation)…we cannot take in to much because we are to small
This is a lot of opinions (I didn’t read all but I get the general idea) but what I would like to say to non-belongers is this. Its not really about a prejudice against you (please don’t take it that way). Its about a lack of resources for everyone. BVI is a very small place as you know. Imagine if the population got to high here what would happen. Many BVIslanders have nowhere else to go or do not desire to go anywhere else but you have somewhere else to go should overpopulation take over and things get rough (some of you already say you hate the BVI and the people in it anyway). So it stands to reason you will abandon ship when things get rough. Thats why we have to fight to keep our country ….we have no other choice. Its economics. A limited set of resources for a limited set of people. We can’t take the whole world. We would sink.
@Imaginary Person: i well want every one who aint born there leave for real. Let me see how the island going survive. They sooo sick. STRUPPPPPEEEESSSS I have visited the BVI couple times since i was a child and I love that place. I always visit BVI news and it is sickening to read how the people behave. I sure if 90% of them really do a background check they would see that none of them really from there, cause is some grandmother/father etc, who migrated there. They just happen to born there and feel as if someone trying to take something from them. STruppppepeeess. How many of them have families living overseas who aint born where they living. I well want everybody go back home and left them there. Let them wallow in they mess when they realise aint dem building the BVI.
The Governor has too much to say too soon. I think he has been preparing his agenda with the UK’s leaders for the BVI long before he got here, he needs to be watched and quieted.
By the way, native Virgin Islanders have always been welcoming. After all, our great-Grands travelled throughout the Caribbean trading.
Do you know who mistreats expatriates? Those persons who came to our islands between 30-50 years ago and settled here. Their mentality, passed on to their children, was similar to the infamous “House-Slave” mentality of the days of slavery. So when you speak about being mistreated, do a little research. You will be SURPRISED to learn that you are being ill-treated by someone whose parents or grandparents hailed from either your own country, or another country, not the BBVI (Beautiful British Virgin Islands)
Some persons not of the BVI are not “mistreated”, but they consistently issue negative comments about my islands and my people, encourage tourists to visit their land, and with the same tongue brag about the money they have made here, their achievements and their investments at home. This is disturbing.
As well, it is very difficult to find a true “Virgin Islander.” Our culture is disappearing slowly, and many other cultures are being forced upon us. Many of them know nothing of our past, of our traditions. They even say, out loud, that we have no culture. This is equally as disturbing.
Lastly, I am offended by the stance that many “ex-pats” take, whether white, black yellow or red. Why am I not allowed to speak up on issues in defense of my country? Why must I be described as racist, biased, selfish or just plain evil? The fact is, LADIES and GENTLEMEN, if I was in YOUR country and commented when you defended your country, I may be killed. Yet you seem to insist that I say NOTHING in defense of MINE! Really!
There is good and bad everywhere. People who meaningfully contribute to a society, and grow to love it, or accept it, should be given some reward. Residency, Belongership and Naturalization should be offered to good, law abiding, productive residents, even IF they do not plan to remain here for the rest of their lives. The rest of you, however, who hate my country and my people, should NEVER be allowed to come here, and should be made to LEAVE my beautiful home.
Several years ago I approached a well to do businessman asking for a contribution for a local youth program. After making my pitch, I was floored by the answer I received: “Why should I contribute my hard earned money to a society that has made it clear that I am not wanted,” I later found out that this same businessman had been in the BVI for over 23 years, employed some 12 BVIslanders, had applied for his residency and watched many people who had been here for shorter periods get their residency while he got nothing……. He has now left the BVI, taking with him every cent that he owned…..
fianally somebody with sense..
I’m neether a BVI lander or Belonger I’m an immigrant. That said whats the purpose of living. Ive read most of the post and it seems the contention is who gets what where and when. Is sad that peoples lives are reduced to this. No one care about what it means to “LIVE” same blood, same flesh, same breath yet ur where ur from is an issue.
Politics was never high up on my agenda, since all it does is create an unbalance environment to some extent. Where was the British Virgin islands in 1967?? The country has come a long way, your history is a fruitfull one and needless to say both none belonger and belonger contributed. Why because those persons saw the need to “LIVE” u cant live without there being a reason and purpose. If all we do is work work work and at the end of the day all we have to show is receipts and stamps whats the sense in that. Human beings need to know they are going to survive, how to feed the children, how to make ends meet, how to contribute to the ‘Society” even if socitey turns its back on you.
I think the Goverenment has realised that there needs to be things set in place if the future is to be a good one and have made their decision after careful research, advice and consultation. If you ask me its the blatant disregard for the “GOVERNMENT” and the role they play in direction the country that has caused all sorts of problem. The governments is responsible to “the mass of people be it belonger/BVI islander/ Immigrants and ensuring that all can function or most importantly LIVE. This should be the focus of all and not who gets whats. At the end of the day none can take it to the grave… Make sure you LIVE!
@Good and Bad: well said!
@hmm: u a real ass…the USVI is an oulying US territory…….Homeland security covers all US Territoriories, including the mainland. do your research dude…thats why all USVI (Virgin Islands) as they call themselves carry the US Passport!!!
@Local!!: really dude…have you not been rwading or listening to the news??? do you know thw annualy GDP for the BVI???? are you aware that the Tourism sector in the BVi is about to crumble????? if we continue on this trend and not wake up you would be eating these words…wake up dude read, find out for yourself!!!
@Resident: SUgar Apple…we waiting for your comment????
think of it now if you happen to have moved to the US with no rights on a work permit, and even after 10 year going theyr still will not give you a break, how would u feel???? be honest!!!
can anyone explain the difference between
A. a Residency Permit
B. a Belongers Permit.
I believe by doing see those who oppose can getting a better aspect of whats at stake???
thanks
I have lived in the BVI for over 18 years (since I was a toddler). I grew up in this community and this community is what I would call home, yet I’m led to be confused with my national identity since I have no belonger’s status, or no residency status or not even permit exempted. I’ve represented the BVI in sports and music, but when I go abroad and people ask me where I’m from, I have to pause a little longer than those who really know where their from. At the end of the day I would just tell them I am from the land of my birth and forget saying i’m from the BVI. Not because I dispise the BVI, but because the laws don’t really allow me to be a person from the BVI.
This has to change.
fear should be read fair must be fair
Sugar Apple I beg to differ. I know you are entitle to your humble opinion but as a school teacher here in the BVI you want to pass on the culture to the students so they/we can keep it alive and when you try to talk to the native about the culture especially when it comes to doing something they don’t want to share it with you …. How can the culture stay alive if those who are suppose to share it want to die with it? By the way I live here and is a citizen. I love the BVI as my home and defend it at all cost BUT fear must be fear it disgusts me when I here people say bad about the BVI but we must face it there is a lot of segregation going on here. Doesn’t it make you sick when the heads of government disrespect the Governor who acts on behalf of the queen? WHat does this say about the BVI? What is the example being set here? Now Sugar Apple when you met those BVIlanders isn’t it possible that your confusion stems from the fact that you are trying to figure out whether this person is truly from here or from the USA come on SUgar Apple don’t tell me that you are not confused that the BVI is more Americanized. One last note Sugar have you ever stop to wonder why so many expats are working in the restaurants? Honesty comes to my mind while it may not be all of them and also willingness to work… Wonder why you can’t find true BVI food? You guys come and turn up your noses at it because it is not an oversized greasy burger and fries so the people cater to your needs…. Now Sugar Apple like you I am entitled to my humble opinion. People of the BVI and my fellow expats do not damn the bridge you have to cross… GOd bless each and everyone of us.
I have read thru all the comments thus far, and I just wanted to share some final thoughts before this topic falls off the screen.
This discussion has been among the best that I have witnessed and partaken in since blogging here for years now. It has been contentious, mature, mostly civil & a healthy discussion if you will. I have learned a few things from reading the responses, and quite frankly I’m impressed with the level of discussion despite I disagree with some postings. I hope a similar level of dialogue on future contentious issues could be had.
Having said that, nothing I have read thus far has convinced me otherwise that my original thinking that the proposal to reduce the residency requirement from 20 years to 10 is unreasonable. In fact, when I read this article for the first time, my thinking was that the 10 years requirement was still a bit too lengthy given the limited benefits of residency, but was a reasonable compromise to alleviate the concerns of those on the opposite side of the argument. In my view, the proposed legislation is a step in the right direction.
Now, it was disappointing reading some post that reeked of bias & xenophobia, but on the other hand, it was very encouraging to read those post whose underlying message was one of fundamental fairness especially the ones attributed to B.V.Islanders. And I say kudos to those fair minded individuals.
Several posters made some very important points, and hope they serve as take home messages for all:
1. Residents are not Citizens, and
2. These islands are British Oversees Territories. While we enjoy tremendous autonomy over our lives and governance, we should all be reminded that we are not an independent country, a status that was not sought by the previous government when they had an opportunity to do so during the last round of constitutional negotiations. We are an open country with immigration laws. We are not a closed society like North Korea. Immigrants and ex-pats have been a fixture of our society for as long as I know.
I will like to conclude on this note by re-quoting again the words of blogger Sharon who summarizes and makes the best case for the 10 year residency requirement:
In support of the 10 year residency requirement, she argues “that person will feel a belonging to our country and be more involved, respectful and financially contribute rather than sending money away for investment. It’s like every thing else. If it is yours, a car, a book, a tool…you take care of it and protect it. This is true of countries also. If more people feel they can have rights and feel like a respected citizen they will respond with better behaviors”.
As I pointed out before, many B.V.Islanders live abroad and are enjoying the benefit of being residents or citizens of where they live. Many send money back to family and friends here in the B.V.I. not unlike what any expat may wish to do for their families from their original countries. Let us treat our ex-pat family the way we would like to be treated when we live in other peoples country. Let us be fair and give people a sense of dignity no less than we would want for ourselves and families. And let us not fall prey to unfounded fears.
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P.S. To the person that wished me God Blessings, I thank you and wish God Blessings upon as well.
I am a BVI Islander and I agree that the time should be reduced. There are individuals comming on here making all kind of excuses why this should not happen, what are you afraid of? These people have helped to build the BVI and make it what it is today, so why should they not also reap the benefits. Not all expacts plan to stay here all of their lives, we BVI Islanders act as if getting a BVI Status is gold. Dont get me wrong I love my BVI Islanders but some of us act as if everything should be giving to us on a plater. These people have worked hard and does some of the jobs that we BVI Islanders donot want to do but we just sit and complain how they are taking all the jobs. Lets reverse it and we had to go to another Caribbean Island to find jobs, how would you like to be treated. As the verse goes do onto others as you will have them do onto you.
Imagine working in a place for 10 or more years and can’t benefits. Government this was a great move. Now really toughen up on those rules with persons who want to come in. We have to control that part of it. Of course, I know there should be other conditions to those persons who have 10 years. close that loop hole now.
I think you should do what your alias suggests. Exile yourself and stop spreading anomosity. Expats contribute to the BVI equally as belongers. The main reason why we are not as developed as we should be is mainly attributed to your way of thinking. When are we going to understand and accept that we are part of the global community. Why do you think the U.S & U.K are so successful. It’s because of their diverse population. You almost make this issue sound like the American/Mexican issue. Locals wouldn’t do certain jobs, but foreigners would. Let me just say, from a local POV. The BVI would sink if foreigners left. It’s this mind frame of them needing us and we don’t need them will one day come as a rude awakening when this place can’t support itself. Thank GOD that we are protected by the Queen.
I wish every BVIslander would get up and leave this place. Let the BVI go ahead and hire its own for everything, and mistreat THEM, underpay THEM, abuse THEM. Expatriates work harder, partly because of fear. What the hell is wrong with these people. Look at the Bi-Water march. How many of the people marching for the betterment of the BVI were BVIslanders? Ask BVIslanders about their constitution. How many of them know it? All this stupid segregation trickling down to the children who walking about they have their BH but no BA because the government paying millions for infrastructural projects that at the end of the day aren’t worth thousands, and can’t get HLSCC to go past Associates Degrees to this day. What the hell. OMG man, it is sickening how black people continuing to destroy themselves. Gathering together to protest giving non-belongers a piece of security after their hard work. If some expatriates doing crap, deal with them. Just as the prison filled with ………….. because they dealing with them. Go check Balsum Ghut, my friend. Last time I checked, it was packed with BVIslanders. I am totally fed up of this crap man. Why we can’t gather to protest the minimum wage. Why we can’t gather to protest parents having to work 2 jobs and children growing up neglected. Why. Why. WHY! Grow the hell up man. Nature’s Little Secret is built by all of us. Expatriates and BVIslanders alike. We are not slaves. And if we contribute, we deserve it at the end of the day. The BVI is dying. In 4 years I watched this place change for the worse. 4 years. So fast. Wake up people. Or we will all die in our stupor.
It is very unfair to the Governor to make him read out items of which he had no way of knowning the background. I am sure if he did not know that it is only about 5 Years since the law had changed from 3 years to 20 years in order to be granted residency. I am not a BV Islander nor Belonger, but I cannot see anything wrong with the decision taken 5 years ago. A change will deprive the Government of a lot of income, as a permanent resident doesn’t have to pay for work permits. *** If there is one law that should be changed: Nobody should get a work permit without being fluent in the English language. I am tired of having to look around in Restaurants and Supermarkets to find an “interpreter” because the staff NO COMPRENDE. In NO European Country anyone can get a Work Permit without speaking the language.
Why are we making such a big fuss about a proposed legislation that could help make the BVI a more civil and respected territory and one where we could safely say human rights is practised.
Believe it or not, a lot of what is happening in this territory fits into the category of human rights abuse – one of which is the present 20 years one has to wait just to be called a resident. No matter the size or wealth of a country, if you live there, work there, have your children there, engage in civic activities to uplift there and want to continue living there, you should not have to wait 20 years to receive a little card saying you are a resident. Please note, this card gives very limited privileges. It is not a belonger card or citizenship card.
Let me state here also that many people who speak negatively about the BVI do so because they are treated like a lower life form. It is a fact. Discrimination against non – nationals is the order of the day among some people here.. In the US and Europe when such treatment is meted out to black people we call it racism. Let me quickly state that there are some very caring and balanced BVI LANDERS who know right from wrong and practise the right and I find this to be more so with native BVI landers. The ones who are quick to fight down other Caribbean people are either only half Tolians OR those who were given status – how sad.
To whom much is given, much is expected. If we were given a break in life, give someone else a chance. We are too selfish and yet we call ourselves Christians. Thank God in heaven we won’t have to be fighting about who from here and who not from here.
God bless these Virgin Islands and ALL who live here.
BVIslanders are very protective of what they have (which is understandable). However, (some) expats come here to make an honest living. Who cares if they want to build a nice home for their family back home? If you compare the amount of years they have been living in the BVI to the their investments back home it will pretty much amount to the same value. They invested time, effort, HARDSHIP, money, discrimination, and the list can go on. They also received a lot of MONEY, care, encouragement, love, friends, etc along the way.
Personally, I grew up in the BVI since I was a couple months. I had no choice in the matter my parents came here and I couldn’t even utter a word. I got a hard hit with this immigration status thing after High School, I never considered myself different from a BVIslander but my passport was different. I mean it tour me up but I stayed strong through it all. I am happy for this change. Maybe it didn’t happen when I wanted it to happen but at least it would be better for other young expats who follow.
The BVI is small not sure if 10 years is a good number but i’m sure the Government factored in the pros and cons. There are a lot people (BVIslanders) who have green cards up in here! You need to do the right thing and TEAR IT UP! SOME BVIslanders are very protective BUT selfISH!
It appears as if this proposal has exposed some pent up emotions, the unhealthy distrust, and poor relationship between locals and and expats.It is pitting two groups that need each other on opposite ends of this issue. Locals are trying to protect its interest and the erosion of the balance of power. This desire is not unusual or uncommon. Other Caribbean countries, I.e, Barbados, St. Martin, Anguilla…….etc try to control residency and citizenship to protect interest, rights, and balance of power of iyts citizens. On the other hand, expats have contributed to the growth and development and are looking for some security and opportunities for they and their families. I mentioned earlier that both group needs each other. Clearly, there is a labor shortage, particularly in the trades and other skils, and expat workers are needed. It is not a one way street though. Employers need workers and workers need jobs. In conflict resolution, one side rarely gets all they desire. There has to be reasonable compromises,
As I understand the proposal, it only shorten the residency time by 50% from 20 years to 10 years. The time for citizenship remains the same. This means that it will take some time to attain citizenship and get the right to vote. Given our small size and population, rapidly increasing the voting rolls can result in small voting blocks shifting the balance of power. Long term residents should be given the opportunity to become citizens but at a pace that does rapidly shift the balance of power. In time the shift of power will occur due to local migration, increasing emigration…… etc.
Another blogger compared the BVI residency requirement with that of neighboring USVI. They are different. When someone gets a green card in the USVI they unfettered access to all fifty states, and territories. I suspect that most green card holders move to the mainland ( US). As such the fear of the shifting balance of power is not as great.
I think the way that this proposal was presented is part of problem. This issue should have been discussed among stakeholders and get buy in before it was delivered at the HOA, Clearly, this issue is a lightning rod and needs further discussion and sensible compromise.
I am not from the Briish Virgin Islands, but i spent most of my growing life here. I graduated from the B.V.I High School, I am now working for the Government. All i know is the B.V.I and all i have been hearing is that i’am not from here and need to go back where i come from, but i don’t know where i come from. all i know is the beautiful British Virgin Islands. If i get send back to my country i would not have a clue off what to do. People think about it serious, are you being fear?
the cap fit please let me wear it.
thank you.
All this for residency in a country that does not belong to you? Please, BVIslanders want to talk about being BVIslanders but BVIslanders don’t even own the BVI. It belongs to England so getting all high and mighty about residency when you don’t even want to become independent makes no sense whatsoever, especially given the rush for British passports and the rush to go have babies anywhere you can in the US so the kids can be Americans. What a joke!
it just means that the unqualified bvislanders will have to compete with the qualified to get jobs,,,most of these foreigners are college and university grads but just stick with the next to nohing jobs to get by,,,the only qualifications some bvisanders have is their certificate of birth…
If they do that they will have to update the exemption from work permit criterion from 20 years to 10 years, otherwise it would create an absurdity.
But it was 10 years before NDP increased it in 2003/04!! What’s the big deal?
@VIlander/UScitizen/Expatblood…All in Men: ask yourself this if the US immigration bust in on you and say your no longer needed haha lol what would you say???
@Anonymous: TELL ME SOMETHING!!! have you ever gone to the US or any other country to see what the polices n rules are???? NOW have you been educated enough from you Government??? LOOK AT the many people in your home, that arent from the BVI or the say Tolian… and LOOK at you self a sour individual who never experience the world to see the benefits of other!!! NOW look again and ask where is the rest of my childhood friends TOLIANS i grow up with??? you have no clue HAHA you just lock up in you fantasy as just as bad as the slave you treat as expat!!!! IM a LOCAL if you did knw Im speaking from experience obviously you have none!!! GO to any collage that if you havnt gone to a good one and see the different roles each students and staff deals with and see how easy the school in run when everything works together… RACE AND OPPORTUNITIES!!! BLIND SIDED by your own future no wonder you stay anonymous
Times have changed. Tola is nothing now but a Ghetto for undesirables who come for vacation (them say) and never leave. The funny this is all this bashing of the BVI and yet people do not leave and go back to where they migrated from. This is because we all know that they are here for one reason, the almighty us dollar. If it means so much to them why dont they go to the us virgin islands to live and contribute. You know why? They can’t!!!!! I have said and will continue to say the BVI is the LIFE WATER to the rest of the caribbean. And to those of you who think that the BVI will be nowhere without out you; think again. Less sewerage, less power outages, no overpopulated schools, interest rates will come down and so will the mortgages and on and on. Stop cutting off the hand the feeds you and your family!!!!!!
@ Lodger. It is insulting to the Governor, Her Majesty’s rep, that he is just being a parrot for the government. It will be dissapointing if he is parroting. I see the Governor’s roll as looking for the best interest of the Crown. This interest include looking out for the interest of UK citizens.
Residents are not Citizens. Becoming a Residents gives people who already live here a sense of security. As residents, people will be more inclined to invest in the BVI instead of repatriating every extra dollar they have. Residents will still have to wait many years to even be eligible for consideration to become naturalized BVIslanders, so there is no worry that the reduced time requirement to become residents will change the balance of power. Turning ex-pat workers into residents makes sense and will be good for the economy. Bravo VIP!
Peeps, Locals and Expat lets not forget who have the power here. BVI is a British Overseas Territory which means it is owned by Britain, manage by Locals. The Governor is a representative of Great Britain. Lets take time out and think who the BVI really belongs to. My humble opinion is that the BVI belongs to the Throne of Great Btitain, that mean as long as the BVI remains a British Overseas Territory we all belongs to the Queen. Locals please understand that if tomorrow Britain want to take over the BVI just like what they did in Turks there is little or nothing your politician can do and if that should happen the Governor would immediately become the head of the BVI. I think the reality here is that we are all caribbean people who have all struggled over the years to create better life in our own country. Some of our caribbean brother have tried there best but are exploited by the system their politicians set and are now victims of political system here and there. I have nothing bad to say about the BVI. I for sure, with more security would be a lot more energetic, more involve and contribute in every way towards the betterment of the BVI. I would love to see the lifestyle and share amongst all the people of the BVI who have worked hard and make a positive mark , I honestly must say, I mostly associated with the older Locals, 40 years and older and they are usually very nice people but I always have to wonder if the young BVI Ilanders are really nice nice at all or may be they are not really Locals, since most people below 40 would be only BVI Ilanders by way of their parents but foreigners by birth which make the expats as well “in a sense”. Am not saying that expats are not nice people am just saying any way you take it expats or locals the young people now a days are just different and the make life different in lots of ways. When all is said and done lets live for the betterment of the BVI, live as one people. One blood, one love, one heart, Lets get together and feel all right and hope that the BVI does not fall victim of political system like the many other caribbean Islands. I wouldn’t want to see myself, tolans or any other expat running to a nother Island or country looking for a better life. God bless the BVI.
A lotta dis is hullaballoo is just hypocrisy and racism. I a belonger, a ‘tolian, I don’t deal with no immigration nonsense, but I know plenty people who do and they feel like they treated like DIRT because they not ‘Tolian. Ayo worrying about someone living here 10 years getting freedom to … do what? Stay a while without having to go in front of those xenophobic righteous hypocritical go-to-church-on-Sunday-but treat-fellow-man-like-dirt-de-rest-a-de-week immigration interrogationists? That’s a long time to wait just for that.
Tolians want it both ways. We want to have all the cosmopolitan stuff from outside – look how people loving UPs and struttin around like dey in a American shoppin mall; we want the money from the financial service sector; we want to go St Thomas, PR, NY, Orlando and dem places and have babies and show off how we got x amount a grandchildren living in Toronto or someplace; we want the tourists and people who come to live here to integrate and learn about our culture even while we watch it disappear down a landcrab hole because no body give a damn about our culture here anymore.
And yet – we want to tell these people who live here 10, 20 years they don’t belong here, dey outsider, they got white skin so they must be bad; dey from down island so dey must be stupid.
What de heck ayoo talking ’bout complainin about dis?
If you live here 10 damn years and you put up with immigration interrogation and general racism from locals you deserve more than citizenship, you deserve a medal of honor.
Ayo lucky de Queen ain issuing dem ting instead a reducing time from 20 to 10.
I personally don’t have anything against it, what my issue really is is the people who will deserve it will have hell to get it and that’s if they get it at all. Because most of those ppl who come here from other islands THEY KNOW HOW TO NETWORK AND KISS PPL’S IN HIGH PLACES BEHIND, and that’s the truth so ppl like them will for sure get it with ease because of who they know.
And those who come here, stay out of trouble and work for their honest bread and fall in love with the place, who see themselves as being better than to stoop to low class levels and standards just to get a leg up, that’s who will have hell to go through to get it.
And for those BVIslanders who say send them home, why is it only caribbean nationals you want sent home, why not send home the americans as well (why not? is it because most of them are your friends and family and you can get US rights and additional privileges?). Don’t get it twisted peeps i’m a born and raised in the BVIslander, and i’m proud of where i come from and who i am, but it just gets to me when you point fingers at ppl who are doing the same thing you are doing.
Everybody deserves a chance in life to live a better life and to make an effort into doing so.
@lol: But why is this a problem in Englang after 5 yrs u get what is yours.
hello people why should the BVI drop their’s and other carribbean countries are carrying up their’s because the influx of residence is causing a problem in their country… protest agains it BVIslanders
Are you all idiots? You guys go to get citizenship in Puerto Rico and STT, UK etc and then you guys think the little island is God’s gift to the world and refuse to reciprocate to the expats in your own territory? Give me a break….your economy would collapse without the expat accounting and law firms in the BVI.
@Sugar Apple:
I fully agree with you comment. I am a BVIlander by birth and often wonder what is going on with the BVI. It seems to me that the non – belongers don’t want the BVIlanders to voice their own opinion. I often read the comments written and if a BVIlander write a comment you will read so many back lash comments. It is as if the BVIlanders are living in fear of saying how they feel. I have heard many (no one – many) non belongers say they are only here for the US dollar so that they can send home and make their country a better place. I do travel and I observe many other cultures and found that it is only in the BVI that most of these people are given the opportunity to degrade the system and get away with it. In America when one is going to become a citizen they must know some of the history of America and the state in which they live or they would not qualify for citizenship. It is sad to hear some non – belongers say this or that is better in my country and they have left their country to come to BVI. I feel if you were given the privliage to live in the BVI and earn a living you should be thank and not look for every opportunity to degrade the country.
NON – BELONGERS PLEASE FOR ONCE STOP BEING SO NEGATIVE AND WRITE SOMETHING POSSITIVE ABOUT THE PLACE THAT HAVE HELP YOU PUT FOOD ON YOUR TABLE BUILD THE FABALOUS HOME BACK IN YOUR COUNTRY. SAY THANKS FOR ONCE. IF THE BVI WAS NOT THERE WHERE WOULD HAVE WORKED.
@Sugar Apple: You are a regular visitor. That’s wonderful, but please tell me why after 13 years here, contributing to society, donating my time, money, taking students on “field trips” spending time with student every year in the workplace to help them understand the workforce, helping develop their thoughts and dreams of what they want to do in life, My money going to taxes and social security among others such as annual work permit fees, my annual trade license fees (yes I have my own business here). Please tell me, why should I not be granted some sort of security here. Understand one thing, Residency is NOT Belonger status. All it does is give me a bit of security, not have deal with annual work permits and trade fees. I still can’t vote and I will not be running for office.
Please, I want you, as “a regular visitor” to tell me why I can’t be granted just a few perks for calling the BVI my home after all these years and contributing greatly to the society of the BVI?
I have more respect for the “Belonger” who may disagree with this possible change in policy that a “regular visitor” who comes in, parties and then leaves without any consequences what-so-ever.
I live and breath BVI. Give me a little break.
@African Enclave: I REPEAT FOR YOUR BENEFIT. THE SPEECH MADE BY THE GOVERNOR IS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM OR AN AGENDA! HE JUST READS THE GOVERNMENTS AGENDA.
@jimmy: but they not staying they taking the US status and returning to BVI so they not draining the resources of Puerto Rico or wherever they were born!
Every a man has a right to decide where he or she wants to live in this world. It is a God given right and we are suppose to be ONE people, no separation. And it is that which cause all these problems. this message is for everyone, without feeling a way……
It seems like a stay in this little rock is like a gold card man. Proud BVI Islander. It is said that the BVI has nothing to Export But we have money to export and people to import take off u all hat to this little place where everyone is fighting to be.
God save the BVI because we are the only standing rock in the Caribbean right now.
If u all wants to keep them out carry up your house rent, daycares ect. like the US is doing. They don’t try that BS in Anquilla Gov or who those people stands up. No Jam, or Guy. They mean business
Born in the VI to VI and non-VI parents raised by the non-VI parent, a UScitizen living in the US for almost half my life.
Every Man/country has a right to decide where they want their country to go.
Expats stop acting like you woulnd’t react the same way if the shoe was on the other foot….GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!
@TOO BIG!!!: That is a load of crap , when ever any country have rules or policies outsiders dont like they have 2 choices love it or leave it . Only in the b.v.i. they have the oppitunity to vocalize there disagreement and want 2 get hostile about it when u tell dem this is what u want 4 ur country . u dont hear about a tolian fussing about rules in any country bout there own . If they dont like the rules they do here time and leave . Thats all u have 2 do .LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT .
What is this trial ballon about residency, or citizenship? If it is about resdency, it may be storm in a tea pot. Now citizenship is a more sober issue. The governor is off and running. It appears as if he came with a play book, with an agenda and is waste no time. Is the governor’s objective to put a certain group on the fast track to citizenship so that they have the numbers to exert more influence on social and economic issues. Though our cousins in the sister islands may benefit from this change, they are probably not prime target for the change. Workers and residents who migrate to the BVI and contribute to its growth and development should be rewarded. But the path to citizenship should be deliberate and measured. Another commentor noted that the BVI is small with a small population. Consequently, any rapid increase in new citizens will have marked social and economic impacts. It will exacerbate the us and them mentality that currently afflict the dociety. instead of a harmonius society there will be infighting among Virgin Islanders. A grdual process is the way to go. Another blogger noted that one can get citizenship in the US in a short period of time. But the US and other larger countries can absorb new citizens with little to no social, cultural, or economic impacts For example all the people in the world can fit in Texas.. The people affected, native and naturalized Virgin Islanders should have input on this issue. Does our local polticians have any comment on this issue?. Or it is a hot potato? The botomline is given our small size and population e0 years is a reasonable timeline to citizenship.
The chickens are coming home to roost. Be careful what you wish for. Immigrant me.
@Ray:
God bless you Ray! More of us need to speak truth in this our Christian nation.
Fear hath torment but perfect love casteth out fear!
Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive from the Lord; whether he be non-belonger or BVIslander!
@Quiet Storm: THE GOVERNOR ONLY READ THE SPEECH FROM THE THRONE. IT IS WRITTEN BY OR UNDER THE CONTROL OF THE GOVERNMENT IE THE VIP AKA THE PREMIER. THEY/HE OBVIOUSLY HAD SECOND THOUGHTS ABOUT THE NEW LAWS.
He was thinking we all are human and we should be threatening equally. You have no idea what treatment we receive from the BVI Islanders.
Do you know multiple BVI folks who have business that expat work for the does not receive the salary in a timely manner example $60.00 now tomorrow a next $30.00 and so on that is only one example
So you should shut your mouth because you don`t know shit
How many of you “belongers”/BVI Islanders would be without a job, if not for us ex-pats???
Then BVIslanders stop going to St thomas & puerto rico to lay your eggs… so that you children could get US citizenship….
You people are sooo damm bias and hypocrite..
@hooo kkkkkkkk:
Dummy,
Only US Homeland security issues visa & etc. US Virgin islands DO NOT HAVE THAT AUTHORITY
After living and working legally in any country for twenty years, one should recieve a vote of thanks and a oppertunity to have residency
sorry that should read passport not visa
so you are st thomas is too small too then they should stop issueing visa to BVI babies born there
@Eyesontheprize:
What many here confuse is – we are talking Residency here – not citizenship. Residency can probably be compared to Green-card-holder in the US. Also please note even if a Resident is nationalized (after another lifetime waiting for) he is not allowed to vote according the new Constitution.
When B.V.I. citizens go over to Puerto Rico and St,Thomas to have their babies, how long does it take for them to obtain a US passport for their children ?
How long does it take for a BVI LANDER to obtain a UK passport ? Remember, this document entitles an individual to live and work in any EU country he desires to .
Why are we so one -sided and selfish ? If we are receiving benefits from somewhere else, why not pass on a little to our brothers and sisters.
Many people will argue that Expats do not care about the BVI but this is not so . Many of just don’t fell welcome and as a result we are afraid to invest here. We don’t know when immigration will send us home.
Remember also, many of the great nations of the world were built by immigrants,
Please do not blame the Governor for this. As far as I know, a Throne Speech is written and given to the Governor by the Government to present.
people dont forget this thing used to be five years
@Ray: This should normally be the case but it is no so. Many of those same persons who have been granted residence cant tell u a thing about vi and dont care to know. They will be the first to tell you is all about being free from work permits and the freedom to make work and make the money. They could care less about bvi. I know one lady right now whi has residence status she has said in the presence of other people that her son will never marry a BVIslander. No what does that say? The child is a born BVIslander what is kind of national pride is being instilled in him at home ? none. This situation is rampant in the territory. If your reasoning was really true then BVI would be a homogenous society and there would not be this VI vs. Island people debate that is goin on right now.
As a regular visitor to the VI it can take weeks sometimes before you meet a Virgin Islander. This I believe is due to the fact that many immigrants work in the shops, supermarkets, restaurants and other frontline jobs. It is even hard to find more than two or three restaurants in Road Town that serve food strictly VI style. So when you ask the people you see about BVI history and culture they are not able to tell you and some even tell you they dont care to know they are only in the VI to make a living and proceed to promote their own country as a good place to visit. This mentality I could never understand. Eventually, you do stumble across a Virgin Islander somewhere who can set you straight on the Facts but by then you are so confused about what is really VI culture as a visitor you are not sure what to think!
If I may say so, just purely from a social/cultural perspective I believe this new policy is not the best for the VI. In reality persons are being given the right to live in the VI indefinately without forcing them to prove that they have a true knowledge of the history and culture country that they now permanently call their home. New cultures are being brought in and the rate by which it is happening does not seem to match the pace of development to keep up with the changes- schools full, constant water shortages, frequent power outages a struggling health care system, visiting criminals who pop in to commit crimes and pop out again without fear of being caught and the list it appears goes on.
While I like the tranquility of the islands and that keeps me coming I an still not able to identify what the VI represents because their are so many people from everywhere practicing their own culture that it seems anything goes.
I wonder what the officials were thinking when this new policy was approved.
There is a new breed of immigrants to the territory. This breed is about self and just that. Long time when people immigrated to the territory yes they wanted to make a better living for themselves and take care of the family but they integrated into the culture of the people they met and tried to give back. This new breed coming in and trying to destroy the culture they meet and push theirs down the throats of the locals. My comments are geared at all expats from UK to US to Caribbean based. So really is 10 years enough, especially when you can read the negative comments posted by a few on the online media about the local people, the same people that created opportunities for others to embrace? I hope this proposal is carefully examined before moving forward.
IF THE TERRITORY IS SMALL FOR ANYTHING WHY THEN MAKE IT SEEM BIG FOR A CHANGE??? PEOPLE LIKE THE DRAG RACING AND OTHER NONE ECONOMICAL VALUE FOR BULLSH**T AND TAKE THE OTHER VALUES OF RUNNING A COUNTRY AND MAINTAINING PEACE WITH THE PEOPLE…. BTW THE 20 YEARS THE NDP SET DOWN THE LAST TIME IS A POLICY NOT A LAW. IF YALL KNW THE RULES AND REGULATION OF THE COUNTRY YALL WILL BETTER UNDERSTAND THIS WHOLE SITUATION!!! I KNW FOR SURE YALL OWN TOLIANS YES YALL WOULD LIVE IN THE US AND WANT TO BE US CITIZENS AS SOON YOU LAND ON US SHORES LIKE SOME CUBANSS…LOL EVERYBODY DOES!!! SO WHAT MAKE YALL DIFFERENT IN MAKING OTHER PEOPLES LIVES EASIER TO BENEFIT YALL??? COME ON NOW WE BREAD THE SAY AIR THESE PEOPLE (NON RESIDENCE) BREAD, WE LIVE OFF OF THEM CAUSE IF IT WAS NOT FOR THEM YOU WOULDNT HAVE CERTAIN JOBS… LIKE FOR EXAMPLE IF A HISPANIC DOES WORK CLEANING A FLOOR IN A SUPERMARKET YOU WOULD HAVE TO DO IT…. BUT NO BECAUSE OF THEM YOU ARE GRANTED A OFFICE JOB AND TIME ON YOUR HAND TO EAT CRADLES AND WHATEVER ELSE THESE HARD WORKING PPL FEED YOU WITH. YES CHECK IT OUT ALL OF THE WORKES IN RESTAURANTS AND PLACES YOU GET STUFF TO EAT, WHERE ARE THEY FROM? SO THINK BEFORE YOU ACT. THESE PEOPLE LOOK AT YALL THE SAME WAY TOO!!!
Storm in a teacup, U have to B here for 30 years to get residency, 40 for belongership and 50 naturalisation, but nobody lives that long.
If you want naturalisation marry a BVIsander – is that the solution BVIslanders really want?
Immigration is a serious issue but so is human rights.
What is the Guv up to? What is the motivation? This decision was made on the spur of the moment, It was plan hatched a long time ago prior to his coming to the VI. The Guv has only been on the job for a second, But he has embarked on a decision that will change the BVI. What is the motivation? Is there quid pro quo. In case we forget the BVI is only about 50+ square miles with a population of about 30, 000. And a rapid granting of citizenship will have social and economic impacts, in election and other matters. The shorten path to citizenship will rapidly dilute the presence and influence of indigenous Vislanders and those who waited their 20 years. The BVI is not the US, UK, or Canada. These countries with a larger populations can absorb citizens without the adverse impacts that the VIs will experienced. Non Virgin Islanders have contributed to the growth and development of the BVI and should be rewarded with citizenship at a more deliberate pace. 10 years is too short a period. A major consideration in this matter should be preventing the dilution of Virgin Islanders. 15-20 years is a reasonable timeline to control the dilution, Will this decision be a unilateral action/ force on VIslanders or will VIslanders get a chance to vote on it. More constitutional changes are needed. It appears as if the Guv has too much power. And he is flexing his muscle. The Guv will be leaving in 3-4 years and will not have to live with decisions he made. Unlike VIslanders, the Guv, along with other expats, has a place to go. VIslanders have to stay on the rock. And as such should have more say in what happen in their country.
Please folks…understand that residency status is no where close to belongership. There are a huge number of people who have lived here for a major portion of their lives who would be thrilled with an upgrade in their status. It would still not make them able to vote, buy land…etc
Most expats understand the importance for BVIlanders to protect their deserved rights but as this country moves forward the rights of others, who have contributed should not be ignored. The system should not grant an upgrade in status based on the number of years one have lived here, but by the dedication and contribution to the country. Ten years is a joke …..there are those of us who have been here for decades with nothing.
@Tolian: B V I for B V I Landers Sent them home
Oh please Ray they better check the background and the history of these people gaining their residence in 10 years time, some of them are to darm ungratful who calls down the place but when them have to go back where they come from them bawl long eye water. All I hope and pray what ever the Gov has in mind I hope it worked out for the best. And I hope those that help out the country prosper more than who they think should get it.
@ Ray….Well said… Let us think possitive about this. People will want to contribute more and not be ungrateful like what exiled mentioned. WE never like change, but sometime change is for better. Let us have a clear vision on this. I know people that have been here for more than 20 years and they have no idea where they stand. They are good citizens and have no problems with the law. We need to think possitive….Good on you Gov. Mc Clearly…You are the HEAD…the man incharge, the man with the plan…Keep it up.
THE LORD GOD ALMIGHTY DONT SLEEP…………..TOLIANS READ BETWEEN THE LINES IF YOU CAN
Did we think for a moment that the UK gave us their passports for nothing? sometimes we are just too gullible as a people. This governor has certainly come with an agenda and he is wasting no time in carrying it out. I mean the man just come and already he has accomplished more than Peary did in six years.
@Sharon: I agree with your input Sharon. The importance of your statement quoted below could not be overstated:
“That person will feel a belonging to our country and be more involved, respectful and financially contribute rather than sending money away for investment. It’s like every thing else. If it is yours, a car, a book, a tool…you take care of it and protect it. This is true of countries also. If more people feel they can have rights and feel like a respected citizen they will respond with better behaviors”.
I think 10 years is fear because the people who are not from here there are the one that is keeping up the BVI not the BVI Islanders ,There spend all of they money out side of tortola If the businesses places should depend on them all of them will be shout down and also there childern are born in the United States of America and get them rights the same time.
BVI Lander the bvi have enough unskilled foreigners,send them to England.Send that brit back to england along with the foreigners.Most of the foreigners have no loyalty to the bvi.Instead of being thankful they are ungrateful .The locals are outnumbered already enhance the time not decrease it.
@Ray:
I agree and think an important consideration is that a person who has a reasonable hope of security and a safe future will be a better citizen. That person will feel a belonging to our country and be more involved, respectful and financially contribute rather than sending money away for investment. It’s like every thing else. If it is yours, a car, a book, a tool…you take care of it and protect it. This is true of countries also. If more people feel they can have rights and feel like a respected citizen they will respond with better behaviors. Residency is not belonger status. I think writers are confused by this. The resident does not have the right to vote but does have security and a sense of being a BVI person with added rights such as the ability to start a business. This investment in our country can be a good thing.
@Eyesontheprize: “limitless resourses”? Are immigrants to the B.V.I. receiving a free hand out? Many as you know cannot enter the country without a job offer in hand to present to immigration upon entry. And when their work permits expire, they have to leave the country. Furthermore, those working are contributing in taxes and labor and in other ways and should not be utilizing “limitless resources” but rather contributing to them. Look, I am all for my fellow B.V.Islanders, but let’s not spread fear and stick to facts.
Look, immigration is a fact of life. B.V.Islanders immigrate elsewhere all the time as people from other places immigrate here. I do not know of any factual evidence to suggest that the immigrants we have here are utilizing our ” limitless resourses”. If you have any, please share them with me. I might change my mind.
@Tolian: Could you point to some supporting facts beyond the size of the country? I would be interested in listening to your expanded point of view. Thanks.
Do not decrease the time. The territory is too small for that.
I am baffled by the Policy. Difficult times, scarce resourses and they are trying to increase our Permanent population. What is going on? Is this a democracy or what? They never told the people that they would do such a thing last election? They failed to address the labour code with term limits and now this. They are not on the side of BVIslanders.
I believe they are trying to give away citizenship to get new voters who will feel they owe them a vote. That is the only how I can explain this. All of these politicians behave as if the BVI has limitless resourses.
I agree with this decision. While I understand the arguments against such a move, I believe those arguments are based on unfounded fears & without facts to bear them out. Yes, our country is quite small compared to other countries, but 20 years is a life time to wait for residency status in any country. For God sakes, a person could be dead before the 20 years is up, and never achieve residency status.
10 years is consistent with our American neighbors where many of us go and ultimately become citizens. For example, getting a green card in the U.S. can take anywhere from 6 months to 14 years depending on an applicant’s immigrant classification. The 14 years is typically seen with adult applicants who are married as they are last on the priority list for visas. But in general, one can expect a green card if qualified in less than 5 years on average. Subsequent citizenship is granted after 5 years of residency.
One of things people fail to note when discussing this matter, is that not all persons living in the B.V.I. remain here for life. So many B.V.Islanders have migrated to other countries, that should they all decide to return today, there will not be enough land for all of them to build homes not even mentioning work. It would not surprise me if the actual numbers show that there is a net migration of people out of the B.V.I. as oppose to in. Furthermore, population growth has been preety steady over the years.
In the late 60′s to early 70′s, the population was around 16,000. Here we are 30 years later, and we have not cracked 30 thousands people. And that has nothing to do with the long time of granting residency per se, but rather based on our birth and death rates, and our immigration and migration patterns.
Bottom line for me is this, 10 years is not unreasonable to obtain residency status in a country where you call home and contribute to it’s growth and economy. If we as a country is going to allow people to come to these islands to live and work, we should be fair with them as long as they are good “citizens”, and abide by the laws of the lands.
In parting, how many of you who have immigrated to the U.S. or have a green card or U.S. passport in hand as we speak would have left these islands to migrate to the U.S. if you had to wait 20 years to become a citizen? I don’t think many of you would have, and these islands would have really been overcrowed. Talk about traffic jams on main street. I think everyone would be calling on Frasier at that point to install more traffic lights. Just saying.
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By the way, I am not endorsing Frasiers’ screw ups.
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