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UPDATE: Opposition member still undecided regarding efforts to unseat NDP government

BVI News Online - Monday, July 22nd, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Christopher (left) and O’Neal

Not all members of the Opposition Virgin Islands Party (VIP) have firmly made up their minds about supporting their colleague’s motion of no confidence that seeks to unseat the ruling National Democratic Party (NDP).

Third District representative Julian Fraser is to bring the motion before the House of Assembly on Thursday (July 25), and that motion is to be seconded by First District representative Andrew Fahie.

Political observers have stated that the motion, which is primarily concerned about the handling of the territory’s economy, is likely to fail.

That is because the Opposition has only four of the 13 seats in the House, and members usually vote along party lines.

Three days ahead of the crucial vote, it is now clear that Fraser is yet to convince all members of the Opposition to firmly thrown their support behind his motion.

When contacted for a comment on the move, Opposition Leader Ralph T. O’Neal emphatically stated that he has nothing to say.

“Go and ask the one who bring it (the motion),” he stressed, declining to even say if the motion was brought to his attention before it appeared on the Order Paper for the next sitting of the House.

It appears Opposition member Alvin Christopher said he needs more time to firmly decide how he will vote on Thursday.

“I right now have a position, but when I am finished eating the substance of the motion, maybe that position is subject to change,” he told BVI News Online.

“I don’t vote for fame or to follow someone. I will have to vote based on the reality and the facts before me.”

Christopher underscored the seriousness of the motion of no confidence to be brought against the NDP government which is roughly half-way through its allotted four-year term in office.

Andrew Fahie (file photo)

“A motion of no confidence in any government is a serious motion because we are talking about changing the elected members of the House of Assembly who bear the rights given to them by the people in a democratic process,” Christopher further said.

“It is a serious matter that requires serious attention… It’s a motion that cannot be played with because our responsibility as lawmakers should always be taken – especially when we are in the House – at a certain level, and it’s not to gain points but is for the good governance of the people of the British Virgin Islands.”

Christopher also declined to state if the motion of no confidence was brought to his attention before it appeared on the Order Paper.
BVI News Online also tried to verify if all Opposition members were brought in the loop but Fraser, who is spearheading the move, declined to comment.

“I have no comment on it – absolutely none,” he said.

The most recent motion of no confidence was brought to the House in 2002 when the then Opposition NDP failed in its effort to boot the VIP from office.

Economy

According to the motion, a number of residents and other members of the society no longer have confidence in the ability of the administration led by Dr. D. Orlando Smith to properly manage the territory’s economy.

Opposition member Julian Fraser

It also accuses the government of breaching the Protocols for Effective Financial Management it signed with the United Kingdom over a year ago.

The motion stated that the behaviour of the NDP government comes at the “worst possible time in the performance of our territory’s economy which is hopelessly tanking…”

It further claimed that the government has failed to stimulate the economy, adding that there has been a lack of acceptable response from the leadership of the territory.

The motion then said: “Now therefore be it resolved that this House of Assembly has no confidence in the Government of the Virgin Islands.”

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  1. lawyer
    July 24, 2013
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    Frazer and Fahie are career Politians. They believe that the country belongs to them. They need the treasury money to keep them in power. So don’t worry with their noise, they are only trying to survive like all of us in this recession.

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  2. Albion
    July 23, 2013
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    It would certainly be humiliating for Fraser (and probably Fahie too) if they cannot even get the members of their own party to support the no-confidence motion.

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  3. Agreeable One
    July 22, 2013
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    The no confidence vote is D.O.A. dead on arrival, it is all politics and based on mostly irrational and personal dislike for the NDP. It does not matter which party came into power in 2011 for they were faced with a 40 year hole (maybe 36 years)to dig this territory out of. Can the NDP be better? Yes Would the VIP be better? They are the ones that really got us here in the first place. In the final analysis it comes down to sound, solid, bold and visionary leadership and unfortunately since HLS we have not had that. The key is leadership, leadership, leadership. Amen

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  4. Winston
    July 22, 2013
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    What are Fraser and Fahie smoking? Was it not their government that chose to do nothing in 2008 when the recession struck? Was it not them that set the problems that we have now by their inability to do anything? Tired of these guys!

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  5. Disinterested
    July 22, 2013
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    No! Is anyone surprised? The opposition is fragmented and too many members are waiting for the venerable R. T. O’neal to exit stage left off the active VIP stage. The VIP created this untenable situation, for it is a seasoned organization yet it does not have a succession plan. A divided VIP will self-destruct, leaving a weakened and floundering NDP without any opposition to keep things on the straight and narrow.

    Local political organizations are evolving into a personal power grab. Everyone wants to be the top dog; no one wants to follow. If you cannot follow, it will be difficult to lead. The VIP has its leadership power grab issues; NDP too. Whenever Dr. Smith exits, we should anticipate a free for all power grab.

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  6. FUSTRATED
    July 22, 2013
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    :twisted: We the people need to gather them all up in one barrel and role them down Jose Hill or Sleepy Hill or the people can vote on the hill of there choice.

    We can talk until we are blue in the face they will still do as they please and what ever they please. Bunch of arrogant self centered set of Politian with only one thin in mind, to rape the country and fatten there pockets.

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  7. sigh
    July 22, 2013
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    Just wish any politician would concentrate on doing something rather than bickering with each other. Heres some ideas:

    Trade licences – turn ‘em all around, hand them out liberally and give an incentive to new businesses (pioneer status for 3 years).

    Ferries – just sort ‘em out. Speak with US administration so ferry’s run 5am to 9.pm on a staggered schedule and meet with key connecting flights.

    Reality -tell the kids the truth, be prepared to start with menial labour and work your way up the ladder.

    Financial services – where’s Big Mac/FSC in all this? They should be pulling the punches leaving the Premier to sort out the economy.

    Stop – spending all your time bickering with each other and implement just one positive change for the better.

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    • Seeker of TRUTH!!
      July 22, 2013
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      Ah boy, sadly it is really that simple! When will they get it? I don’t know. You have said all that needs to be done in a nutshell!!

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    • BuzzBvi
      July 27, 2013
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      Get rid of the people who can not run the ferries and bring on some fresh, hungry, excited interested, inventive and customer oriented people who care about the BVI.
      Be courageous and tell your powerful families and friends that the free ride is over the country needs something better.
      No we are going to use Government money to give new ferries to failed organisations.
      Ever backward the BVI.

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  8. THE OBSERVER
    July 22, 2013
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    Fraser is smarter than all of them. He is aware that Detroit City has declared bankrupsy and that the Ports Authority is well on its way with the Government to follow in short order. He simply wants to say I was the first to see it coming.

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    • To "The Observer"
      July 22, 2013
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      The same head of Ports here was also involved in Detroit so you just might be on to something.

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    • Idiocy
      July 22, 2013
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      Yes, the situation in BVI is similar to Detroit City in so many ways. SMH! You all acting like Fraser was elected for the first time last election. He helped to cause the mess that he’s now first to see coming? hahaha..that’s the best one I’ve heard all day. That’s like Madoff telling everyone he saw the economic downturn on wallstreet coming first.

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  9. ooooo
    July 22, 2013
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    • Reply
      July 22, 2013
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      If you want to appear credible, you have got to start by telling the truth. Stop exagerating and making things worse than they are. Speak the truth, and then perhaps someone like myself would respect your opinions.

      For example, “massive layoffs”? Where. Sure, people have been laid off because of the economy. But massive layoffs is an exageration. Every thing you mentioned, including lack of jops, layoffs, business closures, empty apartments and commercial buildings are due to a weakened economy, or some may argue an oversized economy if you can wrap your head around that.

      Clearly the current government has its work cut out for it, and it should continue to strengthen the economy to stem these negative consquences of a bad economy, but this is what happens when you have a recession. As the economy improves, all these indicators will similarly improve. The key is for the government to find ways to strengthen the economy. Showing frustration and impatience over a two year period is unwise.

      If this government were to disolve, which will not happen, I would like to know from you, do you honestly believe that leadership under any of the current oppositional members will bring about more jobs, stem layoffs, and fill the alleged empty apartments & commercial buildings?

      Waiting….

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      • Reply
        July 22, 2013
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        I guess it was wishing thinking on my part to hope for a reply “ooooo” to the question I posed. The day is over and a new one dawns, and you are yet to respond to my question. I am not surprised; nor should anyone else be.

        You are not interested in discussing truths or offerring solutions to any problem that ails this country. Your sole purpose on these blogs day in and day out is to spread anti-government biased propoganda for some demented reason only known to you. It’s a sad & wasteful use of your time may I suggest.

        In the unlikely event you come to your senses, and should ever have objective and balanced opinions that you wish to discuss, do know that I will be more than happy to discuss them with you point by point. Please end the drive bys. It’s cowardly.

        I think everyone who reads these blogs frequently know your pattern and agenda by now. We all expect that with tomorrows’ headlines, you will begin anew. We can all set our watches to your expectant government NDP government bashing. And that’s a sad commentary.

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    • Go on
      July 22, 2013
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      ‘unhappy ferry owners’… yeah we know who you speakin of, cuz. The goat know what the goat know!

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      • THE OBSERVER
        July 22, 2013
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        Yes, much of what you have said is probably true, however, it is quite clear that you are turning a blind eye on the many factors which are causing the country’s finances to plummet eg. a number of Ministers are plainly out of control and there is a lack of will to bring them back in line; confused priorities mainly on account of poor advice from the Ministry of Finance; the abandonment of the bidding process which permits Government officials to enter into dubous arrangements with their cronies. This is conspicuous in the case of the Central government and the various Statutory Boards. Needless to say that pass dealings or acts of misconduct are today manifessing themselves, eg. the Green Houses, the Hospital, the multi million dollar cntracts which were signed, just prior to the elections for rental of private buildings and roads which cannot be justified etc.
        In the absence of strong leadership it may take a decade or more to dig ourselves out of the mess we are in.

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  10. Reply
    July 22, 2013
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    This move is all for show and political theatre as it’s highly unlikely that members of the ruling government would side with the Opposition to bring down it’s own government.

    Now, Mr.Frasier is within his political right to file a no confidence motion if indeed he no longer has confidence in the government, but I would say this: I personally do not see the current VIP Opposition as a viable alternative for future governance of the B.V.I. even if this no-confindence vote had any possibility of succeeding.

    While there are some things that I am dissapointed in with the current NDP government, particularly their failed pledge to date on gun violence & mandatory sentences for gun usage in crimes, I am of the belief that given the global meltdown and the governance of the previous VIP government (which was arguable poor at best), that the current NDP government is best to clean up the mess left behind. This will take more time.

    I do not expect miracles nor do I expect them overnight. This government simply needs more time to do their work. They have a very difficult task made worse by a bad economy which they have to get going again. And certainly the constant drumming from some oppositional members does not help. Perhaps if,Mr. Frasier, and other Opposition members were to try to work with the government one in a while, and where and whenever they can for the better of the country as oppose to their constanct opposition for opposition sake, then just perhaps the country might be in a little better shape than it is currently.

    This government need more time to do their work. And I say this not as a NDP supporter, of which I am not. I am a supporter of good governance and well being of the B.V.I. As such, I will continue to have confidence in this current government.

    One thing is certain, I do not have any confidence that the current VIP oppositional members, especially one that may be headed by Mr. Frasier can do any better. That would be like going backwards, and placing power in the hands of the very same people who did not manage the economy well. This country can do better and should imo.

    So until a new set of leaders come about, my confidence will remain with the current NDP goverment. This motion is dead on arrival.

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    • Seeker of TRUTH!!
      July 22, 2013
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      Well said, I believe the same. There are a lot of disappointments but one thing is for sure, VIP is not an alternative and no new party will be equipped to lead in these current times. This Government needs another term and some more young blood in order to move forward. The two doctors need to step aside and make room for young innovative, creative people to take the country forward. Changing Government again will be economic disaster for the BVI. Financial Services is already tethering, investors are wary. Change Government again and see what happens. NDP needs some new blood. The old boys’ time is up!

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      • Haha
        July 22, 2013
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        NDP needs younng blood – but wiat they got Marlon…lol! I personally think that the young members of the two major parties are just lackies and they are being taught the “ole boys” ways! Sorry NDP are not as transparent as they claim to be but alas compared to the previous Gov. they look like roses but still smell like s..

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        • Seeker of TRUTH!!
          July 22, 2013
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          I mean young leadership, not just young members. Regardless of which party is leading the country people will have their own selfish desires. If you get most of the electorate to be completely honest with you, most of their sentiments are based off hearsay, petty personal nonsense or the fact that they aren’t getting what they want. Then you have those that have valid reasons like sewerage, schools, water, cost of living etc. some may even use these important things as a veil for their selfish motives underneath. Not fooling me.

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      • dupia
        July 22, 2013
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        only because of the two doctors, ndp came in. where do you find them–creative innovative[positive too}? vip is really happy that they are in the opposition at this time.

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    • .
      July 22, 2013
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    • Reply
      July 22, 2013
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      So what you’re saying is that the ndp needs 8 years while others need 4? Hell no! we will only give them 2 more years
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      Don’t put words in my mouth. I said they need more time. Where did you come up with these numbers? I certainly did not state this.

      And by the way, if you think replacing a government after 2 years is wise, then you are not being realistic about the state of the country, nor do you understand how governance work.

      You are looking for something that is not possible. No government can fix all the problems this country faces in two years. Not even Frasier can do it if he were head of any government. Your thinking is rather immature.

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  11. Jokers
    July 22, 2013
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    It is clear that Fraser and Fahie are moving too fast. They will stay out of government next time

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  12. GREAT
    July 22, 2013
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    oh the politricks we play 8-O

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  13. pretty
    July 22, 2013
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    Don’t be surprise if old Ralphie vote against this motion and Christopher

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